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WVU & Tier 3

  • Oliver Luck beginning the the process

    Circle this date … « WVU Sports with Mike Casazza

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  • Wow - $8.6 million per year is nice cheddar. And that was 4 years ago, but it was also for a more storied program with a more rabid fan following (and larger fan following?) although I think we would be close.

    Chris - please elaborate - what did all this entail from IMG for Nebraska? Local TV options as well?

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  • Last year, the games that weren't on the ESPN family of networks were picked up by MASN in my area as an affiliate of the Big East Network. I've been wondering what will happen since we won't be part of the Big East network package. I'm hoping I don't have to depend on streaming ESPN3 to the TV frequently.

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  • Totally agree..Plus I always loved how WVU would be on the big east network instead of Pitt(which wouldnt be on at all)..even though I was closer to Pitt.

    This post was edited by GReal40 on 5/9/2012 at 7:32 AM

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  • rlniland said...

    Last year, the games that weren't on the ESPN family of networks were picked up by MASN in my area as an affiliate of the Big East Network. I've been wondering what will happen since we won't be part of the Big East network package. I'm hoping I don't have to depend on streaming ESPN3 to the TV frequently.

    The BE network package was produced by ESPN then they outsource them to certain local channels as well as their gameplan package and on ESPN3. Most our football games won't make it out of the tier 2 which is Fox, so we'll have games on FX, Fox Regional Channels, etc.. Fox will have the option to outsource games to MASN and those types of independent channels, but I'm not sure if they will.

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  • Can someone please explain why schools wouldn't do these Tier 3 deals? Why we wouldn't have before this? Whats the downside?

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  • I bought a new big screen TV a couple of years ago. I am soooo glad that I made sure to have it directly connected to my computer with HDMI and digital optical audio connections.

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  • Chris Anderson said...

    It's a relatively new thing and everyone was tied up in their previous contracts before when it just got started.

    Everyone who has begun new media rights contracts in the last few years have gone on to do some sort of Tier 3 thing, whether it was run by the school or someone else.

    I hope we are able to sell our Tier 3 rights to an outside source. I know I probably sound picky but the shows Mountaineer Jammin' and etc. come off looking antiquated. The MSN jingle has a cheesy 80's feel to it and we should be able to find a better co-anchor to Tony Caridi. In my opinion our tier 3 coverage could use a face lift.

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  • Has anyone else noticed that Caridi uses the rather annoying yet exactly proper pronounciation of the letter "W" by saying "Double You Veee You". I think most of us say "DubbaYou Vee You" Don't know why that irks me. LOL

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  • IrishBillATL said...

    Has anyone else noticed that Caridi uses the rather annoying yet exactly proper pronounciation of the letter "W" by saying "Double You Veee You". I think most of us say "DubbaYou Vee You" Don't know why that irks me. LOL

    That's akin to the correction pronunciation of Moun-Ten-Neers. Let's goooo Mountneers

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  • also the BE did not allow this like the Big12 does

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  • Wasnt this one of RichRods top complaints, that were leaving big money on the table by not outsourcing bids for tier 3? Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe it was Parsons who kept shooting down the idea, and giving it to in- house MSN instead.

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  • nofeer said...

    I bought a new big screen TV a couple of years ago. I am soooo glad that I made sure to have it directly connected to my computer with HDMI and digital optical audio connections.

    I did this a few years back as well. Living out of state, I previously would purchase ESPN Gameplan to be able to watch WVU games. Not sure about now, but they previously were not offered in high def. I love ESPN3 from the laptop to big screen....

    but I've heard different accounts to what this new TV deal will mean? If our games are no longer picked up by espn3, I could be SOL living in the midwest with no regional broadcasts?

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  • WVU90_94 said...

    I did this a few years back as well. Living out of state, I previously would purchase ESPN Gameplan to be able to watch WVU games. Not sure about now, but they previously were not offered in high def. I love ESPN3 from the laptop to big screen....

    but I've heard different accounts to what this new TV deal will mean? If our games are no longer picked up by espn3, I could be SOL living in the midwest with no regional broadcasts?

    As wvu15 mentioned above, I believe that Fox will have the first right to broadcast those games that would have been on ESPN3. They have Fox, FX, & all the Fox Sports channels to broadcast those games.

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  • gwinn77 said...

    As wvu15 mentioned above, I believe that Fox will have the first right to broadcast those games that would have been on ESPN3. They have Fox, FX, & all the Fox Sports channels to broadcast those games.

    Directv's Sports Pack carries the Fox Regional Channels.

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  • Also here is a link to Casazza's blog from today, where he says we can expect to see a deal similar to what NC St signed this year, 10yr $49Mil. That would be great to get another $4.9M on top of our Fox/Espn contract.

    More on the third-tier « WVU Sports with Mike Casazza

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  • gwinn77 said...

    As wvu15 mentioned above, I believe that Fox will have the first right to broadcast those games that would have been on ESPN3. They have Fox, FX, & all the Fox Sports channels to broadcast those games.

    That is what I was thinking...just not sure about the regional fox channels here broadcasting WVU games? Im guessing that regional fox affiliates may be fine for people closer to Morgantown, but not sure if that means I would end up getting Iowa St. games or what? ESPN3 was just nice because they pretty much had all the games even the OOC games vs. scrub teams.

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  • gwinn77 said...

    Also here is a link to Casazza's blog from today, where he says we can expect to see a deal similar to what NC St signed this year, 10yr $49Mil. That would be great to get another $4.9M on top of our Fox/Espn contract.

    Something in that article doesn't seem to fit the facts as I understand them. I have seen several references to the fact that the ACC's contract with ESPN has and will continue to include the members' tier 3 rights. If that is so, NC State couldn't have signed them away to someone else.

    nofeer

  • nofeer said...

    Something in that article doesn't seem to fit the facts as I understand them. I have seen several references to the fact that the ACC's contract with ESPN has and will continue to include the members' tier 3 rights. If that is so, NC State couldn't have signed them away to someone else.

    I read that you can keep your basketball rights, but not football. But that was from a fan so who actually knows.

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  • Here's how it works, I believe. "Tier 3" consists of

    (1) football games not picked up by the network(s) that own the rights. In the case of good programs, this will usually be only a game or two at most, against 1AA competiition. Call it one game per season.

    (2) men's basketball games not picked up. A handful of games against the worst teams. 6 max?

    (3) all other team game broadcasts; i.e, woman's basketball, all olympic sports.

    (4) Coaches' shows.

    (5) radio broadcast rights to ALL events

    The ACC contract with ESPN includes (1) (2) and (3), but not (4) and (5). So, NC State's contract is predicated on stuff other than the actual games, the video rights to which they don't own. We will own (1) - (5), and can sell these rights to the highest bidder or bidders.

    This post was edited by nofeer on 5/9/2012 at 7:09 PM

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  • Chris Anderson said...

    The big question is: how in demand are WVU's "other sports" outside of football and men's basketball. I can realistically only see one football game a year and three to six basketball games a season falling to Tier 3 programming.

    Women's basketball is a Top 25 program nationally, but will it pull in viewers? How about baseball? And so on.

    There is some crazy money out there, but you do ave to wonder what it is really worth.
    I thought I heard today the ESPN is about to sign a 3.6 billion dollar 15 year deal with the ACC

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  • Chris Anderson said...

    The big question is: how in demand are WVU's "other sports" outside of football and men's basketball. I can realistically only see one football game a year and three to six basketball games a season falling to Tier 3 programming.

    Women's basketball is a Top 25 program nationally, but will it pull in viewers? How about baseball? And so on.

    I don't know about everyone else, but I'm all excited thinking about watching the rifle team on tv!!! gun

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