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  • Im sure everyone already knows but I just saw on yahoo and espn that JoePa has passed away. I've never been a Penn St fan nor will I ever but its always sad when someone who meant so much to the sport passes away. He will be missed.

    wvufan4life

  • wvufan4life said...

    Im sure everyone already knows but I just saw on yahoo and espn that JoePa has passed away. I've never been a Penn St fan nor will I ever but its always sad when someone who meant so much to the sport passes away. He will be missed.

    I'll respect your view on jopa, and just politely say that I disagree.

    Kokopelli

  • Kokopelli said...

    I'll respect your view on jopa, and just politely say that I disagree.

    I agree with your statement Kokopelli. It is amazing how one decision can ruin or tarnish a legacy. All that being said R.I.P.

    dejwacker

  • Paterno sacrificed all those children to win more football games. It's tough to get too upset over his passing.

    tateer

  • RIP jopa...may God have mercy on your soul.

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    DubVMike

  • you are allowed to have your opinions regardless of how heartless they are

    wvufan4life

  • wvufan4life said...

    Im sure everyone already knows but I just saw on yahoo and espn that JoePa has passed away. I've never been a Penn St fan nor will I ever but its always sad when someone who meant so much to the sport passes away. He will be missed.

    yea it is sad how he ruined his legacy over one bad decision but im sure the kids he could have saved arent in mourning

    jcombow2008

  • Im not giving jo pa a pass by any means but i think its down right crazy, stupid, bullshit etc etc that he is being more critized for not saying anything then the man that actually did the acts. Thats just sickens me ... RIP JoPa

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    MJScragg

  • Agree with you MJ, we all know that he is being flamed because he is much more of a name (a rightfully so).Totally agree he should have done way more, and this is by no means a free pass for bad judgement, but let's put the blame on the man who committed the deed.RIP Joe PA

    orionbigdog

  • Sandusky needs to experience the electric chair and Joe Pa was his enabler. He allowed that monster around the program after knowing what he had done. How many kids lives are ruined because Joe Pa didnt do more. He isnt the only one to blame. They are ALL responsible for knowing that Sandusky was a pedophile and did nothing about it.

    A child's life > football

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    WickedJester

  • MJScragg said...

    Im not giving jo pa a pass by any means but i think its down right crazy, stupid, bullshit etc etc that he is being more critized for not saying anything then the man that actually did the acts. Thats just sickens me ... RIP JoPa

    Exactly an lets not forget that Penn St continues to employ the man that actually witnessed the crime! Mike Mcqueary should have called the police not JoePa or beat Sandusky to a pulp an then call the police. Instead he calls his daddy an than waits a day an talks to the coach. This was a legal matter not a football matter!

    wvruger71

  • Am I the only one that thinks McQueary should be more to blame than JoePa?

    wvruger71

  • wvruger71 said...

    Am I the only one that thinks McQueary should be more to blame than JoePa?

    Nope.

    wvu1980ae

  • Blame here, blame there.. 60% to whom? 40% to someone else? Blame, blame, blame..

    We all are 100% responsible for the information we have an our own actions. This is not a case of 100% divided equally amongst the others. McQueary has his own cross to bare.. So does every single individual that had knowledge and did nothing to stop it, or did only what they perceived as their "legal obligations". We all are responsible for our own actions or in this case, lack there of.

    Look, I'm in no way gonna' gloat over anyone's death. Nope. But just because someone died, does not erase their wrong doings in life. I feel sorry for his family, and that's about where it will stop with me.

    He allowed/permitted the torture of children.. He doesn't get a pass because he died.

    This post was edited by Kokopelli on 1/22/2012 at 4:52 PM

    Kokopelli

  • well like I've said people are entitled to their opinions...

    wvufan4life

  • Can you say witch hunt!

    wvruger71

  • wvruger71 said...

    Can you say witch hunt!

    How is this a witch hunt?

    tyradEE96418

  • tyradEE$ said...

    How is this a witch hunt?

    The press an people expecting JoePa to be judge jury an executioneer. He didnt witness anything! McQueary did an he got to keep his job! JoePa was forced out therefore the witch hunt comment. Do not mistake this as saying something shouldnt have been done, but as how can people act like its his fault? He didnt do it, an he didnt see it. An he got punished because Sandusky is a awful human being an Mike McQueary is a spineless SOB! Again legal matter not football matter. An Sandusky should fry for what he did.

    wvruger71

  • If one of those kids were your son, you would feel a whole lot different. Jopa had a duty to do the right thing and he chose the path that protected the school. Its a sad ending for him, but it was his choice!

    bendp

  • wvruger71 said...

    The press an people expecting JoePa to be judge jury an executioneer. He didnt witness anything! McQueary did an he got to keep his job! JoePa was forced out therefore the witch hunt comment. Do not mistake this as saying something shouldnt have been done, but as how can people act like its his fault? He didnt do it, an he didnt see it. An he got punished because Sandusky is a awful human being an Mike McQueary is a spineless SOB! Again legal matter not football matter. An Sandusky should fry for what he did.

    I don't think anyone is saying Joe Pa was the only one who did something wrong or even that he was the main culprit. However, Joe Pa could have done something to prevent small children from being raped and didn't. That is a major moral failure imo and I wouldn't want a man with those morals coaching/mentoring my son. He was also the face of the program that had this scandal and assumes some additional responsibility because of that. I don't think Joe Pa is a terrible person but he made a terrible mistake and shouldn't be let off the hook for it.

    I understand that this is a fairly polarizing topic so I know I'm not going to change your opinion. Just trying to share a different view point.

    tyradEE96418

  • Ok if you witnessed it do you call your daddy or do you whip his ass an call the cops?

    wvruger71

  • wvruger71 said...

    Ok if you witnessed it do you call your daddy or do you whip his ass an call the cops?

    See, that's not the point. There isn't some rule that only one or two people can pay for their mistakes. McQueary could have done more (should have, imo) and I don't think he should get off easily either. But how does that have anything to do with what Joe Pa did?

    tyradEE96418

  • tyradEE$ said...

    I don't think anyone is saying Joe Pa was the only one who did something wrong or even that he was the main culprit. However, Joe Pa could have done something to prevent small children from being raped and didn't. That is a major moral failure imo and I wouldn't want a man with those morals coaching/mentoring my son. He was also the face of the program that had this scandal and assumes some additional responsibility because of that. I don't think Joe Pa is a terrible person but he made a terrible mistake and shouldn't be let off the hook for it.

    I understand that this is a fairly polarizing topic so I know I'm not going to change your opinion. Just trying to share a different view point.

    OK I agree with what your saying, but I just wonder why people are so quick to dance on the mans grave. An act like he deserved to die for Sanduskies or McQuearies short comings as human beings.

    wvruger71

  • wvruger71 said...

    OK I agree with what your saying, but I just wonder why people are so quick to dance on the mans grave. An act like he deserved to die for Sanduskies or McQuearies short comings as human beings.

    Opinions vary.. I don't think people are dancing on his grave as much as wanting to keep it balanced. Some will prop up all the good things he's done, while others will remind at what cost those good things tolled.

    Least we forget, they were born on the molestation of children.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Kokopelli on 1/22/2012 at 6:27 PM

    Kokopelli

  • Kokopelli said...

    I can answer this, for myself.

    18 + years I've worked with sexually molested children. I've worked with abused/neglected and kids left for dead. I've carried children out of homes where they were prostituted. I've seen their face, up close and personal. I've watched many of their lives crumble as they get older because they can't overcome what was done to them. And frankly, it p*sses me off to no end.

    It is the non-protecting guardian, parent, caretaker that gets under my skin. Children are quicker to forgive their perp., than they are the one who knew and did nothing. There is a reason for this...

    So, I take it a bit personally when I see a man, just a man, who had the greatest opportunity to change kids lives, just like he promoted himself to be great at, turn his back on them.

    I don't revel in his death. No. It's not his grave, nor his death that brings me to discussions like this. It feels uneven, to prop up this man as great, without some reminder of what he has done. Or, didn't do.

    Im not propping the man up but saying that if you fire him why not fire the man who witnessed it an did nothing but make a phone call to daddy an JoePa. When you single out one individual like Penn St did it had the look an feel of a witch hunt.

    wvruger71