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***Main Realignment Thread*** UPDATE 12/04 11:40pm

  • The thought if NotreDame joining our conference as a partial member sickens me..

    Goldrusher35

  • Yea I'm not a fan of ND joining unless they are all in! It makes no sense to let them join any other way. IMO

    wvruger71

  • Now consider the source on this but......

    Greg Swaim ‏@GSwaim
    #B1G source in Chicago at #BCS meetings telling us that #ND agreeing in principle to go to #Big12 as non-football member.

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  • Goldrusher35 said...

    The thought if NotreDame joining our conference as a partial member sickens me..

    +1 Goldrusher. Notre Dame is kinda like George Clooney. All the girls line up even though he has made his intentions perfectly clear that he does not want to marry, but they all think they will be the one to change his mind. Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free? Let Notre Dame use another conference.

    bill c

  • I will be so mad if the big 12 lets this happen, it's either they join a full member or they don't ND does not get the special treatment i mean when was the last time they were relevent in football to even get a special treatment.???? I have no idea how chuck neinas is letting this thing happen you have great program with clemson that i hope would gladly love to join the big 12 as a full member but nooo, you want a partial member. I hope that chuck is telling them you join partial now and 2015 you join full.

    This post was edited by thebestboi on 6/13/2012 at 12:27 PM

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  • I think people are missing the big picture here.

    jphernan1

  • ND is in a contract till 2015, if u take ND Olympic sports than add the football product once their contract is up. With this happening u will now see the Big 12 hold off on expanding till 2014/15. U don't add FSU/Clemson u add ND/FSU.

    jphernan1

  • jphernan1 said...

    I think people are missing the big picture here.

    I agree, ND to Big12, even as a partial member puts the ACC on life support.

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  • gwinn77 said...

    I agree, ND to Big12, even as a partial member puts the ACC on life support.

    Yea I guess that is true gwinn, that would give the ACC the checkmate, I just hate bending over for ND...again! If they agree to full membership when their tv deal with NBC is up then o yes 100% behind the move.

    Goldrusher35

  • Ummm flordia st and clemson arnt coming to the big 12, and notre dame isnt gonna ever join a conf for ftball. Why r u guys still talking and speculating about a bunch of what if scenarios.

    bam4wvu

  • bam4wvu said...

    Ummm flordia st and clemson arnt coming to the big 12, and notre dame isnt gonna ever join a conf for ftball. Why r u guys still talking and speculating about a bunch of what if scenarios.

    Bam read this whole thread, ALL 9 pages, this may be a lot of smoke, but where there is smoke, 9 times outta 10 there is fire. When you think you know more than me on this subject, come on back & we'll have a educated debate on who's going where. If you don't want to fine, I suggest that you then keep you opinions to yourself or go complain about us not signing enough 4-5 stars somewhere else, but not in MY Realignment thread!

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  • gwinn77 said...

    Bam read this whole thread, ALL 9 pages, this may be a lot of smoke, but where there is smoke, 9 times outta 10 there is fire. When you think you know more than me on this subject, come on back & we'll have a educated debate on who's going where. If you don't want to fine, I suggest that you then keep you opinions to yourself or go complain about us not signing enough 4-5 stars somewhere else, but not in MY Realignment thread!

    Everyone's opinion is as relevant as everyone else's. If you are claiming this thread as your own perhaps everyone should start their own. Just one of the reasons, I'm not prone to long threads, it leads to delusions of grandeur. (This is is meant to be humorous, but let's not discourage dissenting views.)

    I was taught to honor and respect my elders. They are getting much harder to find these days.

    oldgoldandblue

  • Ohhhh no another so called "insider". Im glad u think u kno so much on realignment. So whens all this stuff gonna happen INSIDER, I dnt wanna go against an INSIDER ON HIS BOARD OHHH NOO YOU STARTED YOUR OWN THREAD YOU MUST BE SOOO IMPORTANT, HAHA YOUR A JOKE, ALONG WITH YOU CONF realignment WHAT IF scenarios. ALL THIS WAS OLD NEWS 2 WEEKS AGO, AND UMMM CLEMSON IS STAYING IN ACC, ND IS COMMITED TO THE BE IN OLYMPIC SPORTS AND FLORDIA ST ISNT GONNA LEAVE THE ACC, COME ON INSIDER YOU SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT BY NOW RIGHT!!!!!! Dude your a joke, your not $hit but a fan like every1 else

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  • thebestboi said...

    I will be so mad if the big 12 lets this happen, it's either they join a full member or they don't ND does not get the special treatment i mean when was the last time they were relevent in football to even get a special treatment.???? I have no idea how chuck neinas is letting this thing happen you have great program with clemson that i hope would gladly love to join the big 12 as a full member but nooo, you want a partial member. I hope that chuck is telling them you join partial now and 2015 you join full.

    As long as ND gets their separate seat with the the conference representatives at each meeting this will continue. When was the last time WV had a seat to represent its individual interests at NCAA meetings.

    I was taught to honor and respect my elders. They are getting much harder to find these days.

    oldgoldandblue

  • oldgoldandblue said...

    As long as ND gets their separate seat with the the conference representatives at each meeting this will continue. When was the last time WV had a seat to represent its individual interests at NCAA meetings.

    I agree, when all the srories begin with, " The meetings began with the 12 conference commisioners and Notre Dame" something about that just doesnt sound right. This also brings up another question. If ND joins as a partial member do they get to sit in and vote on football topics like they did in the Big East? Will they then be voted to head the football expansion committee like they were in the Big East? I just think that 2015 will roll around and they will find a reason not to join in football and we will be stuck with all their other sports, and of course we will never kick them out.

    bill c

  • bam4wvu said...

    Ohhhh no another so called "insider". Im glad u think u kno so much on realignment. So whens all this stuff gonna happen INSIDER, I dnt wanna go against an INSIDER ON HIS BOARD OHHH NOO YOU STARTED YOUR OWN THREAD YOU MUST BE SOOO IMPORTANT, HAHA YOUR A JOKE, ALONG WITH YOU CONF realignment WHAT IF scenarios. ALL THIS WAS OLD NEWS 2 WEEKS AGO, AND UMMM CLEMSON IS STAYING IN ACC, ND IS COMMITED TO THE BE IN OLYMPIC SPORTS AND FLORDIA ST ISNT GONNA LEAVE THE ACC, COME ON INSIDER YOU SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT BY NOW RIGHT!!!!!! Dude your a joke, your not $hit but a fan like every1 else

    Clemson and FSU are coming to the Big 12. Not sure why that pisses you off so much, but then agaib i really dont give a damn. Oh, and gwinn just takes things that are said from other premium boards and posts them over here. I could do the same(other 247 sites) but that isnt fair to them.

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  • Bam - First of all I never claimed to be an "insider", just more informed than you. But I'm just going to put you on Ignore where you should have been all along. You've been nothing but a bad apple since you showed up. So with that said, Good bye!

    Oldgoldandblue - Why might I claim this thread as my own? Hmm lets think about that, I started it, & have contributed more information in it than any one else. So yes I do claim it as my own.

    MarineMounty - Not once have I taken something from a pay site & passed it on here for free. If I do bring something over from another pay site, I at a minimum make it VIP. Anything I have posted here are either from FREE forums, Twitter, or news stories. So I don't know what you are getting at with that, I don't steal from ANYONE.

    This post was edited by gwinn77 on 6/14/2012 at 4:48 AM

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  • gwinn77 said...

    Bam - First of all I never claimed to be an "insider", just more informed than you. But I'm just going to put you on Ignore where you should have been all along. You've been nothing but a bad apple since you showed up. So with that said, Good bye!

    Oldgoldandblue - Why might I claim this thread as my own? Hmm lets think about that, I started it, & have contributed more information in it than any one else. So yes I do claim it as my own.

    MarineMounty - Not once have I taken something from a pay site & passed it on here for free. If I do bring something over from another pay site, I at a minimum make it VIP. Anything I have posted here are either from FREE forums, Twitter, or news stories. So I don't know what you are getting at with that, I don't steal from ANYONE.

    Bad apple, why bc I think your an idiot and dnt kiss you ass???? Well informed, lol looks like u jus got called out, once again your a joke, and an idiot thats gotta take stuff from other sites to sound well informed and important, haha bum

    bam4wvu

  • bam4wvu said...

    Bad apple, why bc I think your an idiot and dnt kiss you ass???? Well informed, lol looks like u jus got called out, once again your a joke, and an idiot thats gotta take stuff from other sites to sound well informed and important, haha bum

    He does get a lot of stuff from Twitter, and a lot of people do that. Hell, I find out most things on Twitter. I also know he is a member of Rivals wvu site, people over there love posting info from other premium boards. mdeer comes to mind. Not the MDeer that is over here, but a different one.

    FSU and Clemson are coming, though. Not sure why you feel the need to bash someone saying something that is so obvious.

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  • Bam did you pay attention last year when A&M / Mizzu left the B12 for the SEC? Because a lot of this stuff is exactly the same type of info and tea leaf reading that is going on now and in the end, it happened. If your not interested in it that's fine, but why take the time and space away from people who are?

    This post was edited by Goldrusher35 on 6/14/2012 at 10:59 AM

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  • MarineMountie said...

    He does get a lot of stuff from Twitter, and a lot of people do that. Hell, I find out most things on Twitter. I also know he is a member of Rivals wvu site, people over there love posting info from other premium boards. mdeer comes to mind. Not the MDeer that is over here, but a different one.

    FSU and Clemson are coming, though. Not sure why you feel the need to bash someone saying something that is so obvious.

    Bc I jus dnt think they are, clemson has said their committed to the acc, now I no they gotta say that but no way clemson and fsu leave the acc, they kno as long as they stay in the acc that they are the powers a along with virginia tech if either 1 of those schools come to the big 12 their not winning a big 12 title, and the only reason why they were thinking about jumping ship was because of the new bcs talks but it's clear that that acc is going to be included so theres no need to leave the acc, look at all the commissioners comments the past couple days it's the power 5, so yes the big east is screwed and loserville or cincy would jump in a heartbeat but not teams from acc, va tech isnt going to the sec, the only team that might have to move is notre dame and I don't see them coming to the big 12, IMO I think byu will get to the big 12 before anyone. because I think the independents are going to have to join conference is to make it to the playoffs

    bam4wvu

  • bam4wvu said...

    Bc I jus dnt think they are, clemson has said their committed to the acc, now I no they gotta say that but no way clemson and fsu leave the acc, they kno as long as they stay in the acc that they are the powers a along with virginia tech if either 1 of those schools come to the big 12 their not winning a big 12 title, and the only reason why they were thinking about jumping ship was because of the new bcs talks but it's clear that that acc is going to be included so theres no need to leave the acc, look at all the commissioners comments the past couple days it's the power 5, so yes the big east is screwed and loserville or cincy would jump in a heartbeat but not teams from acc, va tech isnt going to the sec, the only team that might have to move is notre dame and I don't see them coming to the big 12, IMO I think byu will get to the big 12 before anyone. because I think the independents are going to have to join conference is to make it to the playoffs

    BYU isn't coming to the Big 12. That much is fact, as that ship already sailed. Clemson and FSU are still targets. The money is too much for them to pass up. What you are hearing are the same exact things you heard from A&M, Missouri, and every other school that has switch conferences. All legalities so they don't get sued. When the FSU BOT's come out and admit wanting to switch conferences, that is it. It doesn't matter what Dabo says, and it damn sure doesn't matter what Swofford says. Deny, deny, deny. That is what they are doing. The 18th and 19th are dates to watch.

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  • gwinn77 said...

    I agree, ND to Big12, even as a partial member puts the ACC on life support.

    I think everyone is overreacting to the ACC being on life support, or dying. Even if they lose FSU and Klempsun, I think they stay together and rob some more big east teams. It will certainly make them considerably more irrelevant, and they may just focus on basketball, but I don't think the conference evaporates.

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  • Wow Bam4wvu just gave you an "up" vote not because I agree with you just because you finally made a post without calling people names or using profanity. I think you should learn how to disagree with someone without being disagreeable! Yes these post are nothing but pure speculation that is the whole point if you don't like it you don't have to read or contribute to the thread!

    gwinn77- I appreciate the posts that you have done it saves me time from having to look all of this stuff up myself! Thanks.

    This post was edited by adammanter on 6/14/2012 at 9:35 AM

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